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(vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> cenk: now let me give you the fun fact of the day here. they did a study of who watches the most porn. number one our capitol district of columbia. new york was fourth. i love the numbers videos watched per person, 7.5 massachusetts a little over 7.5 district of columbia, over 14. they doubled the second largest place in the country. that's how much our politicians watch porn. those are the family values guys. i love their hypocrisy.
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the. >> john: a spokesman claims at least 35 hostages and 15
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kidnappers died in today's assault. a surveillance drone is said to be providing real time pictures of the scene for american policy makers but it is the covert drone war conducted by our c.i.a. principally in pakistan, afghanistan and somalia that will be our focus in a few moments. filmmaker and activist robert greenwald is back from pakistan where he tried determine if strikes which washington says are targeted on terrorists are making the u.s. any safer or rather creating a new generation of anti--american militants. now according to pakistani foreign minister, hina rabbani khar, things are making it worse. >> you're creating a thousand more people who will go in the ranks of al-qaeda and the taliban because they feel that when civilians die and illegal activity happens in another territory, it is a hostile one and it is something which has reaction. >> john: we'll have more on drone warfare in a moment. first for the latest on the algerian hostage crisis, we're
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joined by carlo munoz staff writer, following the story. thank you for following the story tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> john: what is the latest? they say the assault is over but apparently some prisoners are still, in fact, being held. >> that's what -- sort of where the situation stands right now. as you mentioned earlier algerian special forces did complete that raid on the facility in the country. as far as numbers regarding the hostages that are still on -- at the facility, it is still -- it's just as murky as the numbers coming out as far as who were killed and who escaped. so some reports have said as many as two americans are still on the facility under lock and key by the militants who were there. but again reports vary. >> john: are we to assume
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these are bp employees or contractors being held? >> more than likely. it was again as you mentioned a bp-owned facility. so there will more than likely be employees algerian and also from other countries as well. >> john: carlo the group behind the kidnapping calls itself the masked brigade. what do we know about them and are they as rumored to be a new strain of al-qaeda? >> well, as far as being a newer strain of al-qaeda, i'm not quite sure. they seem to fall in line with many of the al-qaeda-affiliated groups in the country. the terrorist organization does have his main terror cell, if you will, known as al-qaeda which also have affiliated cells such as in nigeria in somalia. so this group seems to fall along those lines. recent reports noted that the head of this particular group had actually had experience fighting in afghanistan before going back to africa to sort of take up the cause there.
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>> john: so does it seem like north africa is now becoming ground zero for new al-qaeda recruitment? >> well, as far as it becoming ground zero for al-qaeda recruitment, the area of north africa and the continent on the whole has been concerned for the defense department for awhile now. the defense department has created in recent years the africa command and also a joint special operations task force was deployed to the transsahara region of the country -- in early 2000. it was part of the previous bush administration's global war on terror. so the white house and the pentagon have always had their eye on that area. possibly becoming a safe haven for al-qaeda and al-qaeda-affiliated groups. but i think the number of
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incidents that have happened in the recent weeks have sort of drawn most people's attention to it now. >> john: thank you very much. national defense and national security staff writer for the hill carlo munoz. i hope you'll come back to keep us updated on this development. >> will do. thanks. >> john: thank you so much. from the hostage crisis in algeria to the covert american drone war, i'm pleased to be joined by filmmaker and activist robert greenwald. the documentary drones exposed. thank you for joining us, mr. greenwald. >> my pleasure. >> john: before we begin talking about drone warfare in your upcoming film, i want to ask if you see any kind of connection between the drone war in al-qaeda and this kidnapping attempt by an al-qaeda-linked group in north africa. >> well, unlike other folks in this realm, i like to stick with the facts. we don't have any factual information about that particular attack and what caused the motivation. we do have facts that the drones
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are alienating and serving as recruiting tools for al-qaeda and taliban all over the world. there's information about that. so i'm sure one day we'll know specifically about this incident and whether it was related to a drone. remember the times square bomber was there because of drones. it is impacted in ways that is going to come back to haunt us for years and years and years. >> john: it does seem that the more we try to take out america haters, the more new america herits we create. how long were you in pakistan and what areas did you visit? >> i was in islamabad. unfortunately, the security is such that i wasn't able to go out into the so-called tribal areas where the drone attacks are. but working with some amazing men and women in pakistan, they brought to islamabad 20, 25, 30
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people that i interviewed. and there were family members fathers, children who had lost friends or relatives to drone attacks and they pleaded with me, pleaded with me literally at the end of every interview, they would turn to me and say can you please tell mr. obama we're not terrorists and to stop killing our people. as if i could walk into his office and talk to him. but over the time i was in pakistan and i talked to politicians, i talked to a psychiatrist who runs a hospital where he tells stories of people literally having to travel eight hours to get any kind of mental health because of the drone attacks and there's a wide variety of people all of whom were unanimous in the fact that the drones are making the united states of america less safe because the number of enemies we were creating. >> john: i gotta say in the footage we just showed from you making the film, you are being
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greeted warmly. it is worth remembering that pakistan is still officially a u.s. ally. is there still a warmth among the people there toward our country or are you disturbed by a growing hostility by the pakistani people? >> well, the people i met with, and again, you know, one doesn't want to overgeneralize, the people i met with in the investigation work for the film could not have been more gracious. these were people -- you know, a man held up a picture of his 65, 70-year-old mother. he said look, she was killed by a drone. she's not a terrorist. he and his children, her grandchildren, couldn't have been friendlier. couldn't have been more helpful. and wanted to get the word to the united states that they were not doing anything to justify our assassinating them and their relatives. so they seem to be able to separate at this point the united states policy from members and people of the united
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states of america. but as amman khan said to me, a presidential candidate of pakistan, he said there are -- let's say 100 fanatics in this tribal area. you now have a million people who hate you because you're murdering their relatives. think about that for a minute. just think about that. and think about -- we did a separate video on this which is on our web site, 178 children have been killed by drones in pakistan and yemen. >> john: john brennan who has been in charge of president obama's drone war said the drone strikes have been executed with surgical precision. does that jive with what you found on the ground? >> no. that's a disgusting statement. they've not been educated -- they've not been executed with surgical precision although maybe a terrible hack surgeon if that's your definition. but there are numerous people, numerous incidents of absolutely outrageous civilian casualties and the other thing that we must
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understand is even if the drones are technically accurate and there may be some question about that how are they getting the information as to who to attack with drones? well they're ex-pakistani military are bribing people in the pro inses to give them names and -- provinces and that's how and who the drones are being directed at. just like in guantanamo, people are turning in folks who they have grudges with or who are their enemies. we must think about that. these incredible instruments flying from the sky attacking and killing are based on a neighbor turning in someone in another village because they have a drudge. >> john: bribes leading to bad intel are all too familiar in this long and destructive conflict. 20 seconds left. do you think sir that whether we like it or not drone warfare is the future of american military deployment? >> well, i think we have to do everything in our power to stop it.
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for all the obvious reasons morally, spiritually and it's not making us safer. as americans understand that, as policymakers understand that, as we get the word out, i hope that the policy will be changed. >> john: really quick, five seconds but the argument that it keeps troops out of harm's way does that persuade you? >> we're not at war with pakistan. pakistan is it a country we're not at war with. it is not the troops or drones, it is how do you protect or defend and drones are not doing the job. >> john: filmmaker activist robert greenwald big fan of your films. many thanks for your time tonight. >> john: one of our heroes, alan grayson is back in congress. he's joining us next.
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laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> john: it is his second coming in the halls of congress, that is. if you expected democratic firebrand alan grayson to tone down his comments now that he's back in d.c., you don't know grayson! >> if you get sick in america this is what the republicans want you to do. if you get sick, america the republican healthcare plan is this. die quickly. >> john: oh, you can sell the signs on ebay. admit it. you miss this guy. >> as i pointed out three years ago, their healthcare plan is
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don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly. now we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy recurring national tragedies. their answer is do nothing. they want to instill in us a fatalism, annihilism that means we can't do anything to solve our problems. >> john: the pride of florida's ninth district, the one and only ayatollah rock n' rolla, alan grayson. good evening distinguished representative. thank you for your time. >> good evening. >> john: great to have you back sir. i speak on behalf of many who are thrilled to see you back on capitol hill. after two years off sir has anything changed? >> a lot's changed. the democrats no longer have the house and as a result, nobody's doing anything unless you hold a gun to their heads literally. it is remark to be see the inaction. i saw that directly in full force. it has been 79 days since hurricane sandy before the republican majority in the house was linked to do something to
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address the problem. 79 days where people can't flush their toilets. 79 days where people are living in the dark with candlelight and it took that long for the republicans to do anything to help all of those people. it is shock. they can't get anything done. >> john: those people live in the northeast and not in actual america. i think that's the rationale. >> i think the rationale is what it always is. the republicans don't want to do anything for anybody. there is a mean streak, too that you only see -- you only recognize when you're close up. these are people who went to kick you when you're down. >> john: like you so eloquently described republicans' plan seems to be do nothing. when you see you your g.o.p. colleagues do nothing now it is on gun control measures, what do you think the odds are when the next mass shooting happens god forbid, will they be blamed? will the g.o.p. once again bow to the nra pressure or is this time going to be slightly different? >> no. they will bow to the nra pressure.
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i'm almost certain of it. because you have to understand the real audience for about 150 members of congress who are republicans, most of their caucus, the real audience is those 4% or 5% of humanity who vote in republican primary elections. they don't care what happens in november. they care what happens in june, july, august when they're having their primaries. it is only a tiny fraction of the public who goes to congress from all of those many republican districts. that's their audience. the nra still has veto power over most republican members of congress. they'll kowtow to the nra. >> john: if they go ahead and block oar filibuster an assault weapons ban or regulations on magazine size, when the next massacre happens does the house g.o.p. then own it? >> it just doesn't matter to them. we live in a country where almost 25 million people can't find full-time work and the president and the democratic party have been trying desperately to do something about this for the past four years and for the past two
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years, the republicans have blocked every effort. the president's jobs program never came to a vote in the house of representatives. it is farcical. they don't want to help people. they don't care. the only way to solve this problem is simply to put them out of power. >> john: in your own state of florida, governor rick scott has been refusing to accept federal money to help severely disabled children but it turns out he's willing to use state and local funds to line the pockets of the gun lobby. of course, scott gave a 1.6 million tax subsidy to colt manufacturing in 2011. is there any logic behind this? >> well, the logic i think is that of they believe the only problem this country has is the millionaires and billionaires don't have enough money. and if we keep stuffing money into their pockets somehow everything will come up roses. that's been their plan from the start. they're pretty explicit about it. no form of corporate welfare that governor scott has been against but if you talk about actually seeing to it that happenky dapped children -- handicapped children can be hope
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with their families, suddenly there's no money for that. >> john: last week in response to crittism is from you and children, florida launched a so-called enhanced care program which would enlist 28 nurse care coordinators to would, with the families and the nursing homes treating the disabled children. is this close to adequate? 28 people for the whole state of florida? >> no, of course not. we have 20 million people in the state of florida. we have tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of children who are dependent upon the state for their care. and the question is it going to be in the hands of their loved ones, the people who care about them the most. are they going to be institutionalize and treated like, i don't know packed like sardines into a can. that's the choice that actually is in front of us and the governor's already indicated he favors the sardine approach. >> john: i'm all in favor of giving criminals a second chance but governor of florida seems a bit much. do you think the tide is turning and your constituents are beginning to wake up and realize the character of the man they've put in the governor's office?
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>> you know, it's a tough analogy. in the same way that people in pakistan are sick and tired of seeing drones in the sky day after day people in florida are sick and tired of seeing an unthinking unfeeling government that's constantly doing nothing but taking potshots at them, particularly the ones most in need. i think it is going to end. i think people in florida are waking up. they understand they're entitled when they choose our leaders, we're entitled to have leaders who care about us, who want to help us and serve us. not people who just tell us if you got a problem you're on your own. >> john: congressman alan grayson from florida. it is a pleasure to see you back in d.c. >> thank you. >> john: an american arrested and jailed in egypt after taking pictures of pyramids. he tells his story here for the first time on tv coming up next. circumstance & the inside analysis. the presidential inauguration this monday morning at 10 eastern only on current
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>> john: welcome back once again to the quickest awards show in the world! tonight's category, most absurd right wing overreaction to president obama's executive actions on guns. and the nominees are... senator marco rubio for saying the executive orders have nothing to do with newtown because "this is stuff they've always wanted to do and now this has created the political climate to pursue it." he's confusing exploiting a tragedy with exploiting the next one. governor rick perry for saying "laws the only redoubt of secularism will not suffice. let's return to our place of worship and pray for help." finally, mike levine for saying there are certain things in an executive order that are un-american. in some ways, they're even -- proving his listeners can't look up what a fascism really means.
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quickie goes to -- governor rick perry for suggesting we should stop wasting our time passing laws and instead pray it away. governor perry couldn't be here tonight because he has a previous engagement. he's traveling and oops. but we want to accept this award on his behalf and thank him for making george w. bush look like socrates. we'll be right back. young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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guest who was in egypt take photos of the pyramids when he was randomly picked out by police and forced to spend two nights in a windowless cell in an egyptian prison. this is the first time he's shared his story on tv. we welcome aaron stipkovich, intelligence consultant and host of stipkolive on magazine. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> john: when i first heard your story i wanted to get you here right away. you're in egypt. you're there in a professional capacity. you are an intelligence consultant. but this time, you're taking pictures as if you were a tourist at the pyramids. >> definitely wasn't there under any professional guideline. >> john: you've been there many times before. >> several times. loved egypt. >> john: what happened? >> at that moment, the hotel i was staying at is literally across the street from the pyramids. about 200 300 feet across the street as is the police station. i got about an hour to go before i leave for my plane. i would go take a couple of pictures at the pyramids.
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went across the street. you can see the video running now that says welcome to egypt. at the end of the statement is a couple of guards with machine guns and the whole nine yards i thought at that moment, i'm thinking this is not normal. maybe i should second think this visit. i went through and took a couple of pictures of the pyramids. myself and my colleagues were grab and basically walked into the local jail there and the nightmare began. >> john: you had a flight scheduled that evening. that afternoon. of course you missed the flight. >> yeah. >> john: were you told at any point why you were taken into custody? >> to this moment, i have not been told why i was taken into custody. what charges were -- you know, placed on me, nothing. >> john: you're put in a control. were you given any food or water or did you have access to plumbing? >> it was surreal john. i went in the cell. i thought they were joking. it was basically a five foot, four foot by five foot box
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concrete box. window about this big. and about a three inch hole in the center of the floor. >> john: that's it. you had no way of knowing if your stuff was okay at the hotel or calling anyone for help. >> nothing whatsoever. at one point and i know we're limited in time, i'll leave a lot of the details out but most importantly, one point, i was offered a phone that was held to my ear while i was handcuffed and i had already been beat an bit with a stick. >> john: they physically beat you? >> oh, yeah. i was hit in the shins with like a cane-sized stick. i was complying but apparently not fast enough. regardless, they let me talk to the embassy at one point and there was a breakdown of communication, i would have to say between my embassy and myself. i don't hold them accountable for that. i'm still sort of figuring out why. >> john: who got you out? >> you know, i think benjamin got me out. it cost us about $10,000 out of
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our pockets. they cleaned out our hotel room. the government owns the hotel we were staying at across the street. i didn't know that until hours ago. and they cleaned out our hotel room. took our cameras. about $10,000 cash finally got us out. >> john: i'm taking it you don't really have high hopes for the morsi administration and their relations? >> you know, it is a tough time in egypt. there is a lot of really good people in egypt. my personal feeling is the way the government's being run right now, no, i don't have a lot of high hopes for it. it is a shame because there are a lot of great people there. citizens are top-notch. they're having things rammed down their throat that another not ready for. >> john: he's become increasingly unpopular. egypt's number one industry is touchism. their economy depends on it. why would they do this to an american? >> top-level officials in the state department and the embassy as soon as 3:00 today called me
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and said if you can -- because i didn't come out here to start pointing fingers or hassling anyone other than bringing attention to the situation. they said listen, if you can avoided talking about the tourism aspect, that would be great. i said i can't -- i respect my state department and they're top-notch as well but i can't not mention this. i would say to anyone considering going to egypt right now, avoided egypt with every fiber of your being. until they can prove that they're going to treat visitors, anyone for that matter, ethically and morally stay away. i hope it stings economically. it is my own little private embargo. you can't have this. >> john: we're very happy to welcome any members of the egyptian government to come on and refute your story or give their side of it. i would be eager to hear it and have you back. how can people learn more about you? >> go to stipkolive.com. after the show, i wanted to come to your show first and tomorrow
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morning, we'll run a similar version of this as well as i'm going to put the police report number and you know, the d.a. that arrested us, i'm going to put that all on the site so people can see and look. there's nothing to refute. there's photos as we have been talking. >> john: to hear aaron's story, check out stipkolive.com. aaron stipkovich, thank you. it turns out someone on your fantasy football team had a fantasy girlfriend. perhaps you've heard this in the american news media today. the tragic fictional tale of manti te'o is next. [ ryon ] eating shrimp at red lobster is a fantastic experience. 30 shrimp for $11.99. i can't imagine anything better. you're getting a ton of shrimp and it tastes really good! [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's 30 shrimp for just $11.99! choose any two of five savory shrimp selections
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>> john: a little over 24 hours ago, manti te'o was simply a heisman trophy runner-up preparing for an nfl draft after a really great season but after deadspin revealed his highly publicize and deceased girlfriend who provided the backbone of his heartwarming story was fake, football suddenly became the last thing anybody wanted to talk about. now te'o had informed notre dame
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back in december he received a call from his supposedly dead girlfriend. during a two-week investigation they discovered she wasn't deceased. she never was. according to reports te'o's teammates were skeptical about a girl none of them had met with some questioning his decision to use her apparent death for publicity. one teammate said "he should have never brought her into the media. his grandma passing was enough." te'o's fake girlfriend famously died the same day as his grandmother which happened to be 9-11. last night notre dame athletic director jack swarbrick made it clear they unequivocally stand behind te'o. >> the thing i'm most sad of, sad about is that the single most trusting human being i've ever met will never be able to trust in the same way again in his life. >> john: in a few minutes you'll know why it's perverse
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that's the thing he's most sad about it. is a pleasure to be joined by the great dave zirin, sports editor forethe nation and host of edge of sports radio whose new book" game over" is coming soon to a bookstore near you. dave, thank you once again for coming on. >> great to be here, john. even for this story. >> john: i don't know when we're going to get to talk actual sports between baseball, steroids, bicycle doping and fake football girlfriends. where does this story rank in regards to the lance armstrong or hall of fame steroid story? >> if there is anybody tonight more upset than the legions of notre dame football fans it is oprah winfrey. [ laughter ] i heard she was doing an interview with somebody but i can barely remember what his name was. he rode a bike or something. >> john: has lance has to be relieved by this. he's not the weirdest story in sports anymore. >> i said that to somebody close to lance armstrong and they said what are you talking about?
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one of the reasons he's coming back is he misses the attention. he might be as upset as oprah. never underestimate how people who are in the public eye become addicted to the warm glow of attention. but manatee at manti te'o, if you listen closely, you can hear the big sucking sound of attention in the sports world. it is all located on manti te'o. i've been covering sports for a number of years. i've covered stories that are more political more touching, more important to the body politic, more exciting. i have never covered anything this bizarre and that's what makes it such a bigger story than anything else. the bizarre aspect of this is so profound. the idea that a football player of such prominence which would either -- he's the most naive person in the history of the world -- he shouldn't be left alone in a room with sharp objects or he was part of a hoax. an architect of a hoax that
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ensnared "sports illustrated," espn, "the new york times," and for what end? that's the big unanswered question. if this is a hoax, why would somebody risk their reputation, their character, a potential $20 million contract just so people would know that he had a girlfriend. >> john: the theory is that if he was in on it, he was part of the hoax because he wanted to generate a lot of sympathy, make his narrative all the richer for a shot at the heisman. that the school is behind him 1,000% saying he's the victim. do you buy that or think he may have played a role in this hoax? >> i think the most shocking part of the story so far once you get past the whole yeah, i have a girlfriend and i've never met her for three years and i've talked to her in the hospital for eight hours a day but oh, guess what, she doesn't really exist, other than that little part of the story john, the most shocking part was seeing the notre dame athletic director jack swarbrick stand in front of a podium last night and provide not a milliliter -- an inch,
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let's go with that. i didn't learn the metric system. >> john: we're americans. it happens. >> an inch of daylight between himself and this story. between the school and manti te'o. according to swarbrick they have done their own, private internal investigation which by the way you're not allowed to see. no one else is allowed to see the investigation but it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that manti te'o is a victim here. as swarbrick said with tears coming down his face, the most trusting person in the world may never be able to trust again. look i think jack swarbrick, to put it fine point on it is a moral leper. this is somebody who has overseen in his athletic department the death of a teen videographer who was ordered in a hurricane to go on top of a tower to videotape a team practice by their coach ben kelly. the death the suicide of a young girl named lizzie seaberg who went to school at
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neighboring st. mary's who accused people on the team of sexual assault was sent threatening text messages, warning her not to come forward and she took her own life. swarbrick had no tears for these people. swarbrick ordered no internal investigations for these people. that's one of the other things that makes this a compelling story and a story worth talking about because it is about the culture that takes place in the context of big-time college football. >> john: lizzie seabrook reported her sexual assault and after ten days, they hadn't investigated the assailant. there were no tears shed for her today. i want to have you back. you're right lance who? dave zirin host of edge of sports radio author of "game over," please come back and help us through this. >> my privilege. >> john: our panel featuring noted nonexperts, doan obeidallah creator of the
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dean's report.com. tina dupuy a syndicated columnist and editor in chief of the contributor and lee camp. thank you all so much for joining me. so do you guys think manti te'o's story is a hoax and if so, why would he do it? >> i think it is a hoax and i think that the story should not be about manti te'o. the story should be about "sports illustrated." i think that this is a media incompetent story. you can trust. you can admire. you can love but you also need to verify. >> john: do you agree lee? is it shocking sports journalist have no access to google? >> it is utterly pathetic. ironically what businesses me off the most though is when i was in high school, we would lie about being on the football team so that we could touch real, live girls. this is a real, live football player who had to lie about a fake girlfriend he couldn't touch. >> john: he said he held hands
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with her at some point. >> this makes me appreciate the lance armstrong scandal. at least i understand that one. this one, i don't know. in defense of the football player i've had relationships with various women for years online. victoria's secret models, very close, very intimate. >> last person to do this was napoleon dynamite. >> john: you're a muslim. you can get in trouble for that. >> john: is it possible to fall in love online with someone you've never met? >> yes. i'm in love with nate silver. i love him. he loves me. he just doesn't know it yet. >> john: lee, we talked about how ireland says the number one threat to marriage is online relationships happening. is this as common as it seems to be? >> anthony weiner would tell you yes. >> this guy honestly, he was the most gullible person. he's a sociopath. he's in on a hoax.
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or is the cause of a gay man who doesn't want the story out there. >> it could be all three of those things. this is like a -- i have a girlfriend. she's totally hot. we're totally into it. that was what i was thinking. >> john: that has been speculated. i will touch on that in the commentary. another scandal that was found out about this week that could not have happened without software coding. a middle school science teacher in california was fired after the school students found out she did pornography seven years ago. stacy hallis, her professional name was stephaniecism just lost her appeal to get her job back. so should a former porn actor be allowed to teach middle school students once the students have located her films online? >> first off she's an actor. like if we're going to ban porn actors, we should ban all actors from everything. we shouldn't have to eat with them. they should not have to live next door to us. i mean you too.
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>> john: of course. >> if we're going to treat porn actors a certain way, we should treat all actors that way. >> john: if you don't let actors treat in school, the substitute teacher population will drop overnight. is it fair when the people who consume pornography can be teaches but the people who produce this entertainment consumed by so many are penalized? >> why should porn have to be the only job that stops you from going on to teaching? what about people who were politicians? they shouldn't be teaching kids either. >> john: that's true. >> pornography is legal. pornography is legal. >> john: we live in a culture where you can be denied a job if you posted something untoward on your facebook page. >> you can fire someone for any reason. as long as it is not discriminatory. when i read about the court rulings that she had lied to cover it up. that's where the problem is. the lying to cover up. >> most interested kids ever.
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>> don't feel that bad for her. >> john: i hope that doesn't happen. it seems like she doesn't want to go back to it. i think we're looking at culture in the 21st century of the women admired by men who pay for their work and then despise them in the light of day. we have a long way to go as a species. one more cyberscandal. an american software developer outsourced his own job to china. you've heard about this. he charged companies hundreds of thousands of dollars a year includinger have sizen and paid $50,000 to his contractors and spent his entire day look at videos is. this guy a free market hero in the market of outsourcing? >> have we verified they were actual cat videos? they're not imaginary cat videos? he was actually doing something -- he was actually at the gym and paid someone else to watch cat videos? >> john: he almost got away with it, too. >> is he not a genius? >> john: he's not because he got caught.
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>> this kid inspired me. he lied to his bosses the same way as the porn star lied. that's where the problem is. apparently the guy was in a great job. >> all of the ceos come out and lie to us. he was just following their lead. >> john: is this guy any different from a corporation that subcontracts out its work to overseas workers? >> no. he's just following the path. that's how it should be. we all work as little as possible. >> john: lesson is corporations are people but people, you don't get to be corporations. it seems really unfair. do you think it is the tip of the iceberg tina? will we see more of the cases popping up? >> i hope so because have a lot of work i don't want to do. >> john: dean obeidallah, where can people see more of you? >> dean of comedy.com. next week in dubai. >> john: let me open for you sometime. tina due pie of the contributor
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and lee camp of the book the web. i love your short videos. >> thank you. >> john: thank you all for dropping by. do come back. sorry it was so brief but fake girlfriends take priority. more about manatee tieio and all of the fake girls we love. first, a peek at what's coming up on "say anything" with joy behar. you there? >> thanks, john. on tonight's "say anything," the great congressman from massachusetts, barney frank talks about everything from gun control to the fiscal cliff to what he found most difficult about coming out as a gay man. >> joy: what's the most painful thing about staying in the closet or not coming out? >> you cannot develop the kind of emotional relationships people have. a lot of people who are gay say i'll put all of my energy in my job. we all have needs emotional needs as well as physical needs that need an outlet and
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suppressing them is the problem. >> joy: that's not all. my panel will talk about lindsay lohan's alleged activity as a high-priced escort and if that's not enough, we take a look at kim kardashian's boobs on "say anything." but first, more "viewpoint" with john fuglesang. at cepacol we've heard people are going to extremes to relieve their sore throats. oh, okay, you don't need to do that. but i don't want any more of the usual lozenges and i want new cooling relief! ugh. how do you feel? now i'm cold.
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meet her but he did hold her hand one time was somehow a hoax. so today tv news decided real dead hostages in algeria were less interesting than fake, dead girlfriends in college football. kind of makes one long for the golden age of broadcast news when giants like walter cronkite would look at a story like this and say conservative mormon jock, fake girlfriend, gay. here's the question. how will the irresponsible actions of one fake girlfriend may have known he had a fake girlfriend affect the rest of us? see, here's what i'm getting at. what happens to the millions of responsible law-abiding men who enjoy the virtual company of fake online girlfriends and don't use them for sympathy to try to win a heisman trophy? allegedly? i'll tell you what's going to happen, my friends. president barack obama and eric holder are going to strip your rights. they're going to come to your home and take your fake girlfriend away. just wait. first i want to place restrictions on how many fake
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online girlfriends you can have. they'll background check the fake girlfriends which will be awkward when most of the girlfriends turn out to have penises. finally, obama and his jack buddhist thugs will confiscate your fake girlfriends which is why you need more fake girlfriends in your house now to protect yourself for the day when the new world order comes for them. don't think about the logic of what i'm saying too much. just trust me. under the equal protection clause of the constitution, i have a god-given right to life, liberty and the pursuit of women online who might or might not exist. i find them
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